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 Post subject: Interesting Article on Progressive Rock
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:20 pm 
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http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... irzer?pg=1

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:33 am 
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Good read. Gonna try some Big Big Train today. Prog rock Thursday.

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 Post subject: Re: Interesting Article on Progressive Rock
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:39 pm 
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“I wish you’d told me how long it was going to be. When I started listening to it, I had no idea I’d miss dinner.” :lol:

Agreed... a very good read... and I've never heard of BBT either. I'll have to order some up, I guess.

Ironically, the only point of contention I found was with the Pink Floyd reference. I guess you could make the case that some of their work is pretty progressive, particularly the synth-driven stuff like "UmmaGamma" and "Atom Heart Mother"... but I'd better dollars to donuts more than half of all Floyd fans have never even heard that stuff. Their early material was more psychedelic... and by the mid-70s, much of their music was pretty rock-driven. Are a few experimental albums really enough to give them the "progressive" label?

The author also mentioned "The Wall" as an example... and that one of the "rules" was largely ignoring the R&B roots of rock. I don't think Floyd did that very often... and "The Wall" in particular sounds more like a clever mix of British folk and blues rock to me.

Hell, The Who did "Tommy" and "Quadrophenia"... but I've never heard anyone call them prog for having a story and concept to their work. The Kinks did the same... repeatedly. Almost all of their late-60s/early 70s albums had a central theme. So what makes "The Wall" so progressive by way of comparison? In a similar way, a lot of Tull's early work might fit the progressive tag pretty well... but I think that label sort of loses it's "stick" when the 80s rolled around.

I don't know... I guess it's all just subjective anyway.

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The Who as well as The Beatles where huge influences on Progressive Rock.

I don't think of The Wall as Prog it's just a Rock Opera to me.

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nappy2112 wrote:
The Who as well as The Beatles where huge influences on Progressive Rock.


Maybe it's me... but I just don't see it. Bands like ELP and King Crimson were already way out in outer space during about the same time period. They seem like much bigger influences on the 70s bands right up to today's prog bands.

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I don't think of The Wall as Prog it's just a Rock Opera to me.


That's kind of my point. There's only a handful of albums from Floyd that I'd really consider progressive... and that was some of their least popular material.

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I was surprised there was no mention of Emerson Lake and Palmer. Brain Salad Surgery and Tarkus seem to fit in to the prog rock genre quite well.

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Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road where the main Prog influences , we all now The Beatles pretty much inspired everyone.

The Who were big for bands like Rush.

King Crimson were the real first Prog band IMO , ELP came later.

I have one Big Big Train cd "The Underfall Yard" it's pretty good.

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destroyer67 wrote:
I was surprised there was no mention of Emerson Lake and Palmer. Brain Salad Surgery and Tarkus seem to fit in to the prog rock genre quite well.


Agreed.


nappy2112 wrote:
Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road where the main Prog influences , we all now The Beatles pretty much inspired everyone.

The Who were big for bands like Rush.


They were absolutely influential... but again, I guess I just don't see how having a theme on an album equates to being "progressive."

Maybe it's me... but I have a hard time drawing a straight line from Octopus' Garden and When I'm Sixty Four to 2112 and Pictures At An Exposition. :lol:



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