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 Post subject: Re: Peter Criss
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:53 am 
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I'd love to have been there to see Ezrin rip Gene a new one. :lol:

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My point is that were only hearing Peter's side. How many stories have we heard about Peter being to f'ed up to perform or Ace not bothering to show up to the studio? Do you think that sort of thing didn't contribute to Pete and Ace being left out of decisions and direction? Could be that Gene and Paul are partly (I said partly) the way they are because of having to baby-sit so often. Can't say we'll ever know the real story as there are going to be 4 different versions of everything that happened.


Exactly !


I'm just saying that I don't believe that poor old Petey is the complete victim that he is painting.


4 different versions? Hell, we've heard Paul & Gene's version for decades... It was everybody's fault but theirs.

What I'm finding odd here is that we've spent years talking and joking about how domineering and money-oriented Paul and (especially) Gene are... but when Peter suggests the same thing, you don't believe it. Are you shitting me? :?

Wait a minute. I know what this is...

They got to you two, didn't they? What did it take? Concert tickets? Access to Gene's "little black book?" What was it? :lol:

Of course he's got a "skewered way" of looking at things... 30 years of bitterness and shit-slapping will do that to anybody, especially when the other side is the only one that really has the ear of the music press and the fans. I'll be the first to tell you that Peter is probably still angry as hell (in spite of all his "I'm clean and sober and a loyal servant of the Lord now" bullshit)... and I personally, I still have my doubts about whether or not Ace is still clean... but you guys are cracking me up here. Seriously. :P

If anybody in the music industry ever had an axe to grind, it'd be Peter and Ace... Being crowded out and then unceremoniously dumped on your ass from one of the biggest-selling bands in the world will do that to you. Hell, I'm not even saying that Paul & Gene didn't ultimately make the right decision for the band by tossing them. It's the 30 years of mudslinging that I find funny. Paul & Gene bullied them though the late 70s... and then spent the 80s and 90s trying to convince everyone else that they made the right call.

Maybe the most telling part is that none of the subsequent musicians were ever full-fledged members of the band. They were hired employees of KI$$, Inc.

You tell me. :shrug:


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How's that for a post ? :lol:


I think you now hold the record for the longest post.

Don't worry, though. I'll just try harder. :shock:

:lmao:

Oh... and that was hilarious! :lol:

The next time I'm looking to start some shit... I'm going to preface it by saying, "Hey... I'm f**king Godzilla." :lmfao:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:19 am 
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Maybe some day you'll realize that Paul and Gene are Kiss.

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Maybe some day you'll realize that Paul and Gene are Kiss.


No argument in principle... but even "Kiss" need a solid drummer and a guy to fling out some decent leads.

Looking back, despite the fact that I don't like his songwriting much, I was always an Ace fan. He played cool, straight-on (read: simple and direct) solos... and he always had the "cool" factor that made me ignore those friends that made fun of Kiss when I was a kid. Pouty Paul and Ol' Dragon Breath had the songwriting edge... but it was Ace that had the smokin' (literally) guitar and the best schtick/persona. 8)

Plus, he has the best fucking laugh EVER. :lol:



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RockHard wrote:
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Maybe some day you'll realize that Paul and Gene are Kiss.


No argument in principle... but even "Kiss" need a solid drummer and a guy to fling out some decent leads.

Looking back, despite the fact that I don't like his songwriting much, I was always an Ace fan. He played cool, straight-on (read: simple and direct) solos... and he always had the "cool" factor that made me ignore those friends that made fun of Kiss when I was a kid. Pouty Paul and Ol' Dragon Breath had the songwriting edge... but it was Ace that had the smokin' (literally) guitar and the best schtick/persona. 8)

Plus, he has the best fucking laugh EVER. :lol:



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Yeah I love Ace ...but from a person who doesn't drink much drunks are really hard to tolerate.

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nappy2112 wrote:
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Maybe some day you'll realize that Paul and Gene are Kiss.


No argument in principle... but even "Kiss" need a solid drummer and a guy to fling out some decent leads.

Looking back, despite the fact that I don't like his songwriting much, I was always an Ace fan. He played cool, straight-on (read: simple and direct) solos... and he always had the "cool" factor that made me ignore those friends that made fun of Kiss when I was a kid. Pouty Paul and Ol' Dragon Breath had the songwriting edge... but it was Ace that had the smokin' (literally) guitar and the best schtick/persona. 8)

Plus, he has the best fucking laugh EVER. :lol:



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Yeah I love Ace ...but from a person who doesn't drink much drunks are really hard to tolerate.


As a former unabashed drunk, I couldn't agree more... but then again, so are unrepentant egomaniacs. They tend to bring out the inner drunk in even of the best of us. :shots:

Just sayin'...

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 Post subject: Re: Peter Criss
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:28 am 
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I'm not saying Gene and Paul aren't assholes. But if you have 2 guys fucking shit up all the time because of drugs and alcohol, then I'm not going to say it's a one-sided affair. If you think Pete and Ace are completely innocent in all of it, then you are naive at the least.

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I'm not saying Gene and Paul aren't assholes. But if you have 2 guys fucking shit up all the time because of drugs and alcohol, then I'm not going to say it's a one-sided affair. If you think Pete and Ace are completely innocent in all of it, then you are naive at the least.


I never said that there wasn't enough blame to go around. I said that egomania and rule-by-intimidation were most likely aggravating factors... and giving them a pass because the band was successful in definitely naive.

Besides, alcohol doesn't change your personality... It amplifies it. Hence the reason I don't drink much these days. :lol:


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I'm not saying Gene and Paul aren't assholes. But if you have 2 guys fucking shit up all the time because of drugs and alcohol, then I'm not going to say it's a one-sided affair. If you think Pete and Ace are completely innocent in all of it, then you are naive at the least.


I never said that there wasn't enough blame to go around. I said that egomania and rule-by-intimidation were most likely aggravating factors... and giving them a pass because the band was successful in definitely naive.

Besides, alcohol doesn't change your personality... It amplifies it. Hence the reason I don't drink much these days. :lol:


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bildo wrote:
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bildo wrote:
I'm not saying Gene and Paul aren't assholes. But if you have 2 guys fucking shit up all the time because of drugs and alcohol, then I'm not going to say it's a one-sided affair. If you think Pete and Ace are completely innocent in all of it, then you are naive at the least.


I never said that there wasn't enough blame to go around. I said that egomania and rule-by-intimidation were most likely aggravating factors... and giving them a pass because the band was successful in definitely naive.

Besides, alcohol doesn't change your personality... It amplifies it. Hence the reason I don't drink much these days. :lol:


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Really? I thought you had several. :wink:

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On March 9, founding KISS drummer Peter Criss will be honored by the American Cancer Society as Humanitarian Of The Year at this year's Hope Lounge gala.

Chaired by Lori Kirsch, the American Cancer Society's Hope Lounge will be held in the exciting new venue Encore at 106 Schanck Road, Freehold, New Jersey 07728. The festivities will begin at 8 p.m. with designer cocktails, gourment, hors d'oeuvres, premier entertainment , dancing, live and silent auction and casino games.

Hope Lounge is one of the premier cocktail-style events of its kind to be held in Monmouth County, as more than 200 attendees, including corporate sponsors, prominent medical and business professionals as well as social and political leaders, underwriters and guests are expected to attend this exciting event.

While some men feel embarrassed because of "this macho crap," Criss told CNN surviving breast cancer was actually a blessing. He was treated before the tumor could spread and said he was speaking about male breast cancer to raise the profile of this rare disease.

Criss, who played drums for KISS and was known as "Catman," offered this advice to men who spot lumps in their breast: "Don't sit around playing Mr. Tough Guy. Don't say 'It's going to go away.' It might not and you might not see life anymore and how beautiful that is."

Criss, who is currently working on a new rock album, told Reuters his bout with cancer had affected his songwriting.

"My lyrics are not so deep and dismal," he said.

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I happened to see a post on Ace's FB feed linking to an article with a headline indicating that Gene & Paul recently referred to Ace & Peter as nothing more than hired hands. :tsk:


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RockHard wrote:
I happened to see a post on Ace's FB feed linking to an article with a headline indicating that Gene & Paul recently referred to Ace & Peter as nothing more than hired hands. :tsk:


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They were in the 90's and later, but not the 70's.
I mean without all those great Ace solos all there songs would have been disappointing like the studio version of R&R All Nite.

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I happened to see a post on Ace's FB feed linking to an article with a headline indicating that Gene & Paul recently referred to Ace & Peter as nothing more than hired hands. :tsk:


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They were in the 90's and later, but not the 70's.
I mean without all those great Ace solos all there songs would have been disappointing like the studio version of R&R All Nite.


And let's not forget the demo version of Strutter! :ajerkoff:

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bildo wrote:
nappy2112 wrote:
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I happened to see a post on Ace's FB feed linking to an article with a headline indicating that Gene & Paul recently referred to Ace & Peter as nothing more than hired hands. :tsk:


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They were in the 90's and later, but not the 70's.
I mean without all those great Ace solos all there songs would have been disappointing like the studio version of R&R All Nite.


And let's not forget the demo version of Strutter! :ajerkoff:


And the God Of Thunder demo from the boxed set. I love that one.

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