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 Post subject: You wanted the best (riffs)...
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:47 pm 
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Nappy's talk about Kiss' upcoming set list made me think of this...

We know the band can play... and play well. We know Kiss writes great, catchy tunes.

But... so do a lot of other bands. Most of them have come and gone... yet Kiss just keeps chugging along, and the vast majority of the fans they picked up in the 70s still enjoy blasting "Alive!" or "Love Gun" and air jamming when they think nobody is around to catch them (I do it all the time :lol:).

Why is that?

For me, Kiss has not only survived... but thrived... in my ever-growing collection for over 35 years for one reason, and one reason alone...

The riffage. More so in the 70s... but even today it's true. Simple, repetitive grooves and hooks. They mastered the art of creating a riff that drills right through your skull and gets stuck in your brain. Any Kiss fan worth his kabuki paint set can (and does) "sing" them just as accurately as they can recite the lyrics.

The more I think about it, the more I realize that Kiss has written some of THE BEST riffs ever to grace the grooves of a hard rock album.

Since we've got several Kiss fans here... I thought we could have a threat to discuss them or if you prefer, just Shout It Out Loud.

I'll wait until we get a few responses before throwing my inevitable list up. :lol:



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 Post subject: Re: You wanted the best (riffs)...
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 5:57 am 
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 Post subject: Re: You wanted the best (riffs)...
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:28 am 
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That's it? One riff? :shrug:

And where's the commentary from the peanut gallery? :?

Don't make me break out the rubber stamp... :banned:

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 Post subject: Re: You wanted the best (riffs)...
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:56 am 
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One band that comes to mind in that vein of being able to keep churning out decent cds is Scorpions, They have pretty close timeline as KISS. I am thinking to a lesser extend Iron Maiden. Of course Priest. The one problem I have with Kiss is the thin threable sound of the guitar that wore off from me. Cheap Trick is another one that keeps churning the material out as well.


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 Post subject: Re: You wanted the best (riffs)...
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:14 pm 
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i'll just say the first album , with better production it would be their best, luckily we have Alive !

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 Post subject: Re: You wanted the best (riffs)...
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:48 pm 
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nappy2112 wrote:
i'll just say the first album , with better production it would be their best, luckily we have Alive !


Some great riffs, though... and the rough edges sort of add to the charm if you ask me.

My favorite Kiss riffs (at the moment):
1.) Strutter
2.) I Stole Your Love
3.) Parasite
4.) Black Diamond
5.) C'mon And Love Me
6.) God Of Thunder
7.) Detroit Rock City
8.) Deuce
9.) Firehouse
10.) Cold Gin
11.) Tears Are Falling
12.) Heaven's On Fire
13.) Love Gun
14.) Hotter Than Hell
15.) Makin' Love
16.) Calling Dr. Love
17.) She
18.) Tonight You Belong To Me
19.) Charisma
20.) Lick It Up

A lot of these riffs are the first things I learned to play on the guitar... In fact, these are the songs that made me want to play guitar in the first place.

Too bad I still can't get some of them right. :gig:


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 Post subject: Re: You wanted the best (riffs)...
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:17 pm 
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"She" has a great riff , just never went anywhere after that but it's OK.

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 Post subject: Re: You wanted the best (riffs)...
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:46 am 
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I never get tired of She. I can even play the riff on the computer.

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 Post subject: Without looking at any other lists...
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:37 am 
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I'm sure there's more, but there's some serious riffin' there.

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 Post subject: Re: You wanted the best (riffs)...
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:16 pm 
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I'll admit it... I had to look a couple of those up to give them a listen. :lol:

I never listen to "Carnival Of Souls" or "Psycho Circus"... In fact, I don't think I've ever listened to "Carnival..." all the way through... :shock:

All good calls, though... I can even buy The Oath. Not a great tune, IMO, but an excellent riff nonetheless.


:BB Take Me <= Another great one...


PS ~ I wanna know why the self-professed Kissaholic hasn't come up with a list yet. :roll: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: You wanted the best (riffs)...
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:22 am 
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RockHard wrote:
I'll admit it... I had to look a couple of those up to give them a listen. :lol:

I never listen to "Carnival Of Souls" or "Psycho Circus"... In fact, I don't think I've ever listened to "Carnival..." all the way through... :shock:

All good calls, though... I can even buy The Oath. Not a great tune, IMO, but an excellent riff nonetheless.


:BB Take Me <= Another great one...


PS ~ I wanna know why the self-professed Kissaholic hasn't come up with a list yet. :roll: :lol:



Carnival is one of my favorite Kiss albums...it's to me what The Elder is to Bill,

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 Post subject: Re: You wanted the best (riffs)...
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nappy2112 wrote:
Carnival is one of my favorite Kiss albums...it's to me what The Elder is to Bill,


Yeah, but I think we've already established that you two are just weird. :wink:

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How much you'll pay... for what you used to get for free..."

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~ Rod Stewart (The Faces)


"The earth can shake... The sky come down... The mountains all... fall to the ground...
But I will fear... none of these things... Shelter me, Lord... underneath your wings..."

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 Post subject: Re: You wanted the best (riffs)...
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This entire weekend I was actually thinking that the song Psycho Circus has a pretty cool riff. I was going to get on this thread Monday morning and say so. Then I saw your post up above. We can only agree on disagreeing. :lol:

And Carnival Of Souls is atmospheric as all hell. KISS was jumping on the band-wagon (again!) at the tail-end of a musical fad (again!), but they managed to put out a damn good grunge album. I absolutely hated it at first, but now I love it.

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I didn't see these mentioned yet.

Christine Sixteen- Even Tone Loc dug that riff
I Just Wanna- Strip bar favorite. I used to bring my own Revenge CD to The Lodge. :bouncies:
Raise Your Glasses- Favorite song off Psycho Circus
Let Me Know- You'll have the riff stuck in your head all day long.
Move On- Another classic off Paul's solo LP and in the regular rotation.

Soooo many killer riffs. If you don't like KISS your a damn commie bastard.

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